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Athlon 64 3800+ zvan Eustahije Brzić
19.08.2004.
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Načekali se bome jesmo, ali test Socket939 Athlona 64 je napokon tu! Iako je Socket939 lansiran za vrijeme Computexa, dakle početkom lipnja, tek sada je sample uletio na test. Razloga za sporost ima više, no glavni je taj što Hrvatska kao tržište AMD-u nije pretjerano zanimljiva što se high-end procesora tiče. AMD tu nije jedini - brojka prodanih Intel P4 Extreme Edition procesora u našoj zemlji je isto vrlo mala (a P4EE je direktni konkurent S939 i S940 Athlon 64 i Athlon 64 FX procesorima). Ipak, da tržište za ove procesore postoji, nema sumnje - već nam se javilo par čitatelja koji su si "upiknuli" neku Socket939 matičnu ploču i procesor. Ovo ne čudi, jer kao što ćete vidjeti kasnije iz testova, performanse su odlične. Nama je na test stigao Athlon 64 3800+ procesor kojeg krasi takt od 2.4GHz-a (kao i top model Athlon 64 FX-53) i 512kB cache memorije (na FX procesorima cachea ima 1MB).

Kada je izašao Socket940 jedna od glavnih zamjerki bila je ta što su Socket940 procesori (tada je bilo riječ samo o FX-ovima) zahtijevali registered DDR memoriju koja nije bila lako nabavljiva. Uz to je ova memorija bila i nešto skuplja a nije bilo ni modula koji su mogli "preživjeti" postavke poput 2-2-2-5. PC Ekspert je očekivao da će tranzicija na novu platformu koja podržava običnu memoriju, dakle na S939, biti puno kraća od šest mjeseci, no tu smo se prevarili. Najgore je to što i danas, skoro tri mjeseca nakon launcha, S939 ploče i procesori nisu baš lako nabavljivi. Razlog za ovo nije neki "paper launch" već činjenica je potražnja puno veća od proizvodnih kapaciteta. Zbog toga za S939 trenutno niti nema jeftinijih procesora - tu su samo FX, te Athloni 64 3500+ i 3800+.

Oznake S939 procesora:

Modeli S939 CPU-a:
Takt
L2 Cache
Athlon 64 FX-53
2.4GHz
1MB
Athlon 64 3800+
2.4GHz
512kB
Athlon 64 3500+
2.2GHz
512kB

Jeftinijih procesora za S939 neće biti još neko vrijeme, no i taj dan se sve više približava - jesen je vjerovatno vrijeme kada će se pojaviti neki model sa rejtingom poput 3000+. Tada će S939 vjerovatno dobiti na masivnosti, no ne treba očekivati neki ogromni boom - ploče za S939 su vrlo skupe a tu je i drugi AMD-ov proizvod - Sempron 3100+ koji je namijenjen za S754 platformu.

No, vratimo se mi na S939 procesore i na to što je na njima poboljšano. S939 procesori kao i S940 modeli imaju na sebi wide, tj. dual channel memorijski kontroler. Osim podrške za obični DDR400 AMD je sredio i neke druge stvari na memorijskom kontroleru. Najbitnija stvar jest to što je poboljšana kompatibilnost sa raznim modulima te što je uveden 2T DRAM tajming koji omogućuje da uz S939 procesor bez problema upiknete i četiri memorijska modula. Nažalost, 2T DRAM tajming sa sobom nosi i solidno smanjenje performansi, kao što ćete vidjeti kasnije iz naših testova. Što se tiče jezgri, Athlon 64 FX je i dalje isti - tu je 1MB cache memorije. Athlon 64 3500+ i 3800+ procesori su na novoj jezgri koja se zove Newcastle i koju krasi manji cache od 512kB. Samim tim je veličina jezgre smanjena s 193 na 144mm2 što znači da je yield po waferu narastao za preko 30%. Samim tim jasno je i da je cijena ovih procesora niža spram FX-a.

Athlon 64 3800+ Socket939

Pinovi, pinovi,..

Što se hladnjaka tiče, tu je situacija prilično jednostavna - hladnjaci za S754, S939 i S940 jednaki su. To je dobra stvar jer je nemoguće pogriješiti prilikom kupovine. Što se pak jednostavnosti montiranja (a posebice skidanja) tiče, S754/939/940 su u klasi sa hladnjacima za S478; S775 hladnjaci su trenutno #1 po jednostavnosti uporabe. Ono što je pak plus za AMD jest to što se Athlon 64 procesori griju puno manje nego Prescotti.

Što se chipseta namijenjenih za S939 procesore tiče, na tržištu trenutno dominiraju dva - NVIDIA nForce3 250 Ultra i VIA K8T800 Pro. Na papiru nema puno razlike izmađu ova dva chipseta - oba podržavaju 1GHz "FSB" i 2GHz HyperTransport link. Uz to su tu standardno podrška za stvari poput SATA-e, USB-a 2.0, itd. Ipak, nForce3 250 Ultra je u prednosti jer na ovom chipsetu AGP/PCI lock radi kako treba, dok VIA i dalje muku muči s tim. Uz to nForce3 250 Ultra ima na sebi i ugrađen Firewall, što je u današnje doba pojeftinjenja brzog linka vrlo zgodna stvar. Što se pak stvari poput PCI Expressa tiče, trenutno na tržištu ne postoji S939 (a ni bilo koji drugi AMD chipset) s podrškom za ovu novu sabirnicu. AMD tu igra vrlo ziheraški pa se prvi S939 PCIe chipseti očekuju tek u četvrtom kvartalu ove godine. Ovo nije veliki minus jer trenutno nije baš lako kupiti bilo kakvu PCIe karticu - do kraja godine bi se taman situacija trebala popraviti. Jedino što nas brine jest da 4Q 2004 ne preraste u nešto poput 1H2005 - AMD se od Athlon 64 launcha prošle godine nije baš proslavio brzinom. S obzirom da trenutno imaju puno bolje procesore nego Intel, bilo bi šteta da uprskaju stvar sa nečim poput PCIe-a.

Prije nego što prijeđemo na testove performansi, pogledat ćemo jednu S939 ploču - Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939.



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